Recently, there have been many false name transfer events in Dongguan. I don't know about the transfer of second-hand cars! What's behind this? Dongguan automobile administration said that the transfer of second-hand cars does not belong to the responsibilities and supervision of the traffic police department, and suggested that the owners sue the second-hand car dealers and the people who sell cars under false names.
Not long ago, Ms. Liang, a native of Zhanjiang, was divorced and found that her car had been resold by her husband in a car shop in Dongguan. Coincidentally, Mr. Luo, a Hong Kong businessman, went back to Hong Kong and found that his car in Dongguan had been transferred to someone else's name. 'I don't know. I have all my ID cards and I haven't signed any power of attorney. What's the problem? 'Ms. Liang and Mr. Luo raised the same question. Dongguan automobile administration said that the transfer of second-hand cars does not belong to the responsibilities and supervision of the traffic police department, and suggested that the owners sue the second-hand car dealers and the people who sell cars under false names.
Vehicles are resold by 'people around':
Ms. Liang recently reported to the Southern Metropolis Daily that at the end of March this year, in order to find her missing Lexus car, she chose to call the police to deal with it. "After checking, the police said that I was not the owner of that car at all. '
After confirming that the police's statement was correct, Ms. Liang was in a panic. On April 1, Ms. Liang came to Dongguan vehicle management office for help. She found that the vehicle had been transferred to a used car market in Zhushan, liaobufu, Dongguan on March 23. It was Ms. Liang's husband, Wang, who came to sell the car.
Ms. Liang said she and Wang had a daughter after they got married in 2011. But in recent years, the relationship between husband and wife has broken down, and they are divorcing.
'my husband has been borrowing money crazily for nearly two years, and he doesn't tell me what it's for. I borrowed 550000 yuan from my mother's family. I kept asking me to help him borrow money and loans. I applied for many credit cards in my name. Now he overdrawn more than 190000 yuan. Ms. Liang said: 'at the end of March last year, when I was in hospital for appendicitis surgery, my mother-in-law had no one to take care of me. He also called to urge me to sign a famous loan for him. At that time, my mother's family scolded him by phone. '
'he raped me less than half a month after I was discharged. 'according to the evidence provided by Ms. Liang, she was beaten all over the place, and local police and women's Federation intervened.
Ms. Liang recalled that after the Spring Festival this year, Wang drove her Lexus away. 'because we were separated, I didn't know where the car was. I asked him (Wang) several times and said that he lent it to a friend. "Ms. Liang said that around March 15 this year, she also went to the vehicle management office and found that the vehicle was still under her name.
"At the end of March this year, a friend reminded me that if the car has been lent to others for a long time, any violation record will be included in my name. My friend suggested that I go to the police and find out where the car is, so as to leave evidence for other people's violations. 'Ms. Liang said that when she arrived at the police station, she found that her car had changed ownership.
Owner's doubts: ID card has not left
When a reporter from NaNTU recently came to Dongguan traffic management office for an interview, he happened to meet Mr. Luo, a Hong Kong businessman who came to ask for help. He had a similar experience with Ms. Liang.
According to Mr. Luo, he bought an off-road vehicle in January this year. At the beginning of April this year, he returned to Hong Kong for a period of time and handed over the car key to a friend. When he returned to Dongguan, he found that the car had been resold by a used car market in Houjie Town, successfully transferred to a stranger's name, and got a new license plate.
Mr. Luo later found that another friend had got his car key, and then quietly drove the car to a second-hand car shop to sell it.
'is it such a joke to transfer the car? Mr. Luo and Ms. Liang both said that their identity papers had never left before the vehicle was transferred. According to the regulations, the original and copy of the owner's ID card must be provided for the transfer of the second-hand car. So they either forged certificates, or the relevant units were negligent! '
Ms. Liang also said that in her hometown of Zhanjiang for the transfer of second-hand cars, the car management office also requires the buyer and the seller to take photos in person. 'how can Dongguan transfer be so simple? How to protect the interests of car owners? '
NaNTU reporter learned that Ms. Liang sought help from the vehicle management department in time after finding out the problem. Fortunately, the formalities were not completed at that time. When the buyer from Guangxi heard about the complex situation, she terminated the transaction. Dongguan automobile management institute then intervened in the negotiation process. By the time of publishing, Ms. Liang, Wang and the second-hand car market had not reached an agreement. Mr. Luo's vehicle has been successfully traded and put on a new brand. The situation is more complicated, and further solutions are still to be found.
Question who is responsible for the transfer of the car under the false name
Ms. Liang and Mr. Luo began to point the finger at Dongguan vehicle management office, questioning that they did not carefully verify the identity of the seller, and there was a "lax" fault. However, the car management office told them that the business of transfer of second-hand car ownership has nothing to do with the car management office. New car owners come to the car management office for vehicle registration and other related businesses only after completing the second-hand car transaction.
According to the property law, motor vehicles belong to movable property, and the establishment and transfer of the real right of movable property have effect since the time of delivery. According to the provisions of the motor vehicle registration, if the registered motor vehicle ownership is transferred, the current motor vehicle owner shall apply for transfer registration to the vehicle management office of the registration place within 30 days from the date of delivery of the motor vehicle. In the process of transfer registration, it is not necessary to submit any information of the original owner to the vehicle management office.
Ms. Liang mentioned that the registration of the transfer of second-hand cars in Zhanjiang requires the original owners to take photos at the vehicle management office, which does exist in some cities. 'Chen Zhiwei said,' in fact, Dongguan did the same before 2012, but it was unnecessary, and it was easy to cause unnecessary trouble to the vehicle management. Therefore, most urban vehicle management offices in Dongguan, Beijing and other cities later cancelled the practice of taking photos of the original owners. '
Chen Zhiwei said that the second-hand car market is an institution with relevant authority given by law, and they should review the identity information of the seller and bear corresponding legal risks. For Ms. Liang and Mr. Luo and other related encounters, Chen Zhiwei said there must have been problems in the process of second-hand car trading. It is suggested that Ms. Liang and others can consult with the involved used car market for handling. If the consultation fails, they can directly sue the used car market and the person who sells the car under the false name.
Mr. Luo told Nandu that he had talked to a used car market in Houjie, Guangdong Province, and the other side said it was a forged certificate of his friend. Yang, the head of a second-hand car market in fuzhushan, Liaobu, who was involved in Ms. Liang's case, responded to Nandu reporters, saying that 'the situation between their two parents in law is very complicated', and did not respond positively to the question about the transfer of fake ownership.
Warning: do not put the vehicle registration certificate in the vehicle
Chen Zhiwei, a police officer in charge of Dongguan automobile management office, said that cases such as Ms. Liang and Mr. Luo happened from time to time, which were usually sold by relatives and friends around the car owners under the false name. And the most important point is that these owners put the "motor vehicle registration certificate" in the car.
According to Chen Zhiwei, car owners always think that identity documents cannot be transferred without their own identity documents. In fact, identity documents are easy to be forged. They often ignore the most important "motor vehicle registration certificate", which is equivalent to the vehicle's "identity card", as important as the real estate card. And unlike a driver's license, it doesn't need to be carried around at all.
Officer Chen hopes to appeal to the majority of car owners through Nandu. He must take good care of his "motor vehicle registration certificate" at ordinary times, and never put it in the car!