What did Zuckerberg answer at the hearing
In the afternoon of April 11, Facebook CEO Zuckerberg went to Capitol Hill as scheduled to attend the Senate hearing. The following is the main record of the hearing, sorted by time.
Welcome to Washington, D.C. we are currently in the congressman Hart's office on Capitol Hill. We are waiting for the arrival of Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook. He will be here today to answer questions raised by members about Facebook's privacy policy. Facebook has been widely questioned by the previous Cambridge analytics data theft scandal.
Zuckerberg will arrive at the scene in less than half an hour, and we will update the actual content of the hearing in real time this afternoon. The hearing is said to last up to four hours.
Zuckerberg will attend two hearings this week. Today is the first. He will be back here tomorrow for questioning by the House Commerce Committee. Today, Zuckerberg will be questioned by two different Senate committees: the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Committee on commerce, science and transportation. Today, there will be 44 members asking questions about Zuckerberg. Due to the large number of members, a second row of seats and microphones had to be placed at the scene.
Hello everyone, 2:07 p.m. EST! I'm at the hearing right now, and everyone here is waiting for Zuckerberg. The hearing is expected to start at 2:15 p.m. EST, but it may be slightly delayed because members need to vote at the same time. It's already very crowded, with more than 70 media reporters present, not including the photographers waiting for Zuckerberg to enter the scene.
At 2:14 p.m. EDT, let's take a look at the scene. Many people are waiting outside to enter. The length of the line is more than 100 yards. The woman at the front of the line told me that she arrived here at 7:15 this morning. There are dozens of photographers waiting outside to take pictures of Zuckerberg coming in. The first row of seats behind the media desk is for Facebook's communications team, including Elliot Schrage, the company's vice president for global communications and public policy, next to his son. On the other side of me, sitting behind Zuckerberg, is Colin stretch, Facebook's chief legal adviser, who came here last fall to testify about Russia's political advertising on Facebook.
Some protestors came in at 2:18 p.m. EDT. They are making a quiet protest, but every photographer present has captured their pictures.
At 2:26 p.m. EST, everyone was quiet and nothing happened at the moment. Several senators have begun to sit down. I saw Ted Cruz. We are still waiting for Zuckerberg. Most senators are not in yet.
Zuckerberg entered at 2:29 p.m. EST, followed by Joel Kaplan, Facebook's vice president for corporate policy. The shutter sound of the live camera is constant. Zuckerberg shook hands with several senators and the hearing was about to begin.
Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and John Thune, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, made opening remarks at 2:35 p.m. est. There are still some vacancies at the scene, and some members have not yet arrived. The following is the scene from my seat:
At 2:46 p.m. EST, the congressman was still making an opening statement. Most of what they said was previously reported by the media. They commented on the size of Facebook, and Dianne Feinstein, a member of Parliament, gave an account of Cambridge analytics. Grassley also summed up Facebook's advertising business and data collection behavior. Everyone is waiting for Zuckerberg to speak.
At 2:50 p.m. EST, Bill Nelson, a congressman, told the story in his opening statement. He said: 'I'll put it straight. If you and other social media companies can't regulate their behavior, then none of us has privacy. '
At 2:53 p.m. EDT, Zuckerberg finally began to read his testimony, which he submitted to the Committee yesterday. He just said: 'I founded Facebook, I run the company, and I'm responsible for whatever happens. 'so it's Zuckerberg, not anyone else, who came to answer questions from Congress.
The testimony and opening statement ended at 2:59 p.m. est. Let's start the Q & a session. The first was Grassley, who reminded everyone that there were only five minutes. I will keep a brief overview up-to-date instead of keeping a detailed record of every communication.
The first question is whether Facebook knows that any other developers or data companies have similar situations with Cambridge analytics. Zuckerberg repeated what Facebook said a few weeks ago: the company is looking for other potential bad actors and will audit companies that may not be able to correctly access large amounts of user data.
3:10 p.m. EST next: Senator Nelson. He asked if Facebook was considering a business model that would allow users to pay for non advertising services.
Zuckerberg: one way is that users can opt out of Facebook and publish more targeted ads based on each user's data. That is to say, Facebook will still display ads, but they are not customized. 'although some people don't like ads, people really don't like ads that have nothing to do with themselves,' Zuckerberg said. He also clarified that now Facebook 'users can't choose to pay without looking at ads'. It sounds like a subscription model and deserves serious consideration by Facebook.
At 3:16 p.m. EDT, Senator Vance asked Zuckerberg sharply how to avoid the recurrence of Russian election advertising. Zuckerberg said that in the process of running Facebook, his biggest regret was that he failed to quickly identify the 'information action' of Russians during the 2016 presidential election. When asked when he first realized it, Zuckerberg said: 'it was during the 2016 election. '
At 3:20 p.m. EST, von Stein just asked a good question. Zuckerberg said he had asked his team the same question a few weeks ago: why didn't Facebook take measures to stop Cambridge analytics from collecting user information illegally when it first found out in 2015?
Zuckerberg said Cambridge analytics did not use Facebook in 2015. They're not advertisers, and they don't run any pages. 'we have nothing to ban,' he said.
Thanks to Senator Orrin Hatch for his question at 3:23 p.m. est. Today (at least for me) for the first time, smile: how can you keep your business going for a long time without charging users?
Zuckerberg pauses awkwardly: 'Senator, we make money from advertising. '
Zuckerberg was asked at 3:24 p.m. EST what kind of rules he would support. As you might expect, Zuckerberg mentioned some of the things Facebook has done. He said he thinks businesses should establish a 'simple and practical way' to let people know what data companies collect from them and how to use it. To this end, Facebook has just revised its terms of service and is also required to comply with the upcoming EU general data protection regulations (gdpr) privacy regulations in the future. He also talked about empowering people to control what they post, and he said Facebook is already doing that.
Asked at 3:30 p.m. EST whether the European privacy rules, or gdpr rules, should apply to the United States, Zuckerberg said he believed that "everyone in the world has the right to good privacy protection measures.". He said Facebook plans to apply the key terms of gdpr to all users, although the requirements are not exactly the same in each country.
At 3:37 p.m. EDT, Senator Patrick Leahy just asked Zuckerberg if he or someone in Facebook is working with the special adviser Robert Mueller? Zuckerberg said yes, Facebook employees are working with the special adviser, but not Zuckerberg himself. It was a strange conversation, because Zuckerberg once said that he would not disclose anything confidential, but he finally said 'it's not clear' whether Facebook has been subpoenaed, but 'I know we are working with them'.
Lindsay Graham, the first senator to treat Zuckerberg rudely at 3:44 p.m. EST, kept interrupting. First, he referred to Andre Boz Bosworth's memo, which said a few weeks before the leak that Facebook was pursuing growth at all costs. He asked Zuckerberg why he allowed Boz to publish the memo within the company. Graham said he would fire employees who hold that view. Zuckerberg said he tried to get people to express their views and manage Facebook in this way.
Then Graham began to ask who Zuckerberg's biggest competitor was. Graham asked, if he doesn't want to use Facebook, what social network can he use? Obviously, Zuckerberg doesn't have a really good answer. Graham then asked if Facebook was running a monopoly. 'definitely not for me, 'Zuckerberg replied.
A few minutes ago at 3:52 p.m. EDT, Graham asked Zuckerberg if most people would read Facebook's terms of service, which outlined most of the rules for the company to collect data and how to use it. Zuckerberg said: 'I don't think the average person will read the whole document. It's obvious! "
At 3:55 p.m. EDT, Senator Amy Klobuchar asked Zuckerberg if he would support a rule that requires companies to notify users within 72 hours of a data breach.
Zuckerberg said he thought it made sense.
If you want to know why Facebook didn't alert users when the Cambridge analytics incident happened, it's because they didn't think it was a data intrusion. No one broke into Facebook's servers, and no one stole data from them. In Facebook's view, data is all right, but it is abused by the people who collect it.
At least that's what Facebook says. That's why Zuckerberg said he agreed to notify users, but Facebook didn't at the time of the Cambridge analytics incident.
I agree that we should be responsible for this. '
When it comes to Facebook's responsibility to protect data uploaded by users, Zuckerberg said. but