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Ma Yun is not interested in making money. It's more important to be happy and meaningful

Former title: Ma Yun: I was not interested in making money before, and now I am not interested

On the evening of November 7, the 2019 Yunfeng fund global investor conference was held in Shenzhen yesterday. At the meeting, Ma Yun and Yu Feng, the two co founders of Yunfeng fund, started an ideological dialogue.

This one-hour dialogue not only focuses on investment, but also fully interacts with investors on such topics as the general environment, how to be an enterprise, women leaders, future opportunities and technological challenges.

At the meeting, Ma said that in the next five years, he hoped to spend more time on what he felt interested in. He said, 'I'm not interested in making money before, and I'm not interested in making money now, because all businesses should make money, and making money is a result. '

As for what is fun, Ma Yun said, 'you do something that makes you happy and meaningful. Only when you do it well with a group of people can you have fun. '

Ma Yun said that he may still be interested in education in the future. He believes that education should cultivate people's ability to deal with complexity. I think I'm interested in how we can cultivate a group of people who can adhere to their determination, value system and mission in complex situations. '

Here is the Q & a record:

Question: Mr. Ma thinks this is a good time or a bad time. What are the global uncertainties that Mr. Ma may be concerned about in the next few years?

Ma Yun: is the next five to ten years a good time or a bad time? This is a complex time, but the key is to see your own ability. Most people can't judge this is a complex era first, and they don't know how to deal with complex problems second. I think all of us should learn the ability to fix and deal with complex problems in a complex era.

The next five to ten years must be complex, because the whole world is entering a very complex state. The key is that there will still be many outstanding companies in the complex era, which depends on your ability and vision.

I have seen many opportunities and new technologies. I have seen China change from investment in infrastructure and export-oriented to consumption driven by domestic demand and import-oriented. I have also seen China's problems and the world's problems. How complex the world is now, but this part of complexity has nothing to do with you. The good news is that everyone faces complex problems. The bad news is that you have no absolute stability in any country. What attitude should you face?

When you see a complex problem, it's not terrible. When you see that this snake is a poisonous snake, you won't be bitten by it, and you won't be stupid enough to play with it, right? You only need to judge that the next five years are complex. Be careful, you will find opportunities in the complexity.

I think in the next five years, I hope to spend more time on what I feel interested in. I'm not interested in making money before, not even now, because all businesses should make money. Making money is a result. You do something that makes you happy and meaningful. I think it's fun to do it well with a group of people.

I may be interested in education in the future. I think education should cultivate people's ability to deal with complexity. I think I'm interested in how to cultivate a group of people who can adhere to their determination, value system and mission in complex situations.